I have one question for you: Does the Malik Family know about Zayn’s relationship with Harry? If you think they know, please tell me why you think they know. If you think they don’t know, please tell me why they don’t know? (As usual I won’t be posting comments that try to make excuses for Zayn or justify the things he’s done in regards to Harry and his females.)
I’m making this post because I get asked this question often. For example, I got asked multiple times last week when looking for questions for a Q&A video on IG, I kid you not. So I figured I’d answer it here as well as in the upcoming video.
PAGE ONE: ZAYN’S IMAGE AND LEGACY
PAGE TWO: THE FEMALES
PAGE THREE: THE MALIK MEN
My answer is no. I personally do not believe the Malik family is aware of the nature of Zayn’s relationship with Harry. The extent of his willingness to beard and the extent of his unwillingness to be with Harry in a traditional sense (based on Harry’s pursuit and ‘waiting‘) has convinced me Zayn internalizes everything to a scary degree to protect himself, and therefore he doesn’t allow anyone into his confidence on that level.
I can’t envision a situation where he sits anyone down at any time to say he had a romantic relationship with Harry. For me, him doing that seems like a farfetched impossibility. Primarily I’m referring to his parents and sisters, but I also don’t believe his closest male cousins are aware either.
I believe this secrecy and perpetual tightrope walk leaves Zayn feeling alienated and full of angst and ambivalence. I believe he works hard to project a certain image onto the public with the help of people like Perrie and Gigi, and that ultimately it’s all for his family’s sake. No, I don’t believe he does it solely because he’s a former Muslim (since we know he left Islam by 2018 and is no longer a practicing Muslim) but I do believe traditional gender roles and cultural expectations play a role here, and that Islamic principals are the root of this.
In many ways, Zayn must still feel pressured to fulfill his gender roles and live up to certain expectations for the sake of his family at large, such as having a baby and being married to a woman. (Side note: I don’t believe any of this is noble if having a baby and being with a woman is not what is personally in his heart to do. Living a lie is not noble. Period. Unless of course you are being persecuted and your life is in danger, so you need to conceal your sexuality or religion etc, which Zayn is not.)
I won’t get into my thoughts on how I feel about Zayn succumbing to these expectations and gender roles and cravenly hiding Harry to the detriment of both their mental health, but I will get back to my original point.
“I’m well aware I write too many songs about you…”
“What am I now? What am I now? What if I’m someone you won’t talk about?”
Certainly Zayn appears family oriented (even though he left his entire family behind in the UK to adopt the Hadids in the US.) Despite being away from them and worlds removed from their opinions, pressures, and expectations, I still believe Zayn is consumed by trying to manipulate his own image in the eyes of the public and his family. (Which he has mentioned in the past: struggling with wanting to control how he is perceived by others and being overly concerned with his legacy.)
For the simple fact that he is preoccupied with controlling how he is perceived by the world and obsessed with his own legacy, I believe he hides his truest self from his family (both the immediate and extended members) and tries to impress them with his lifestyle with Gigi.
As with Perrie, Zayn takes pains to ensure Gigi has a relationship with his mom and sisters, and has taken both his major female partners home to celebrate Eid with him and his family. That sends a stern message of adherence to convention, and it is a hint at the direction his life will take. In essence, he is letting his family know what to expect of him. He plans to continue playing this role with these women and all future women he dates.
Harry does this too with some of his public girlfriends (letting them meet his mom) but in a lot of ways I noticed his girlfriends can often pass as good friends (like Kendall), so I’m not convinced Harry ever introduced anyone to his family in the sense of them being a long-term girlfriend, more like a vague and fleeting female companion, and I still am sincerely convinced that Anne (and maybe even Gemma) knows about his relationship with Zayn on some level.
Zayn having his girlfriends spend time with his family (sometimes in his absence) reveals a desire he has for his family to get to know these partners on a serious level, and therefore he is letting them know (subliminally) they should expect to see this particular partner around for a while.
How do we know this? Well, you don’t take a fleeting hookup home to meet the family (no one does) therefore, this step shows Zayn is rather committed to the façade of being a hetero male in a monogamous relationship. Also of note, he is willing to sell this narrative to his own family hard enough to have them participate in it while they’re ignorant of what else may be going on behind the scenes. Like most closeted men, he sells the narrative even as far as engagements and babies to ensure it will never be questioned (except by a valiant few like us who poke holes in his botched narrative all the time, and aren’t afraid to voice it despite how wildly popular Zigi is online and in the media.)
PAGE TWO: THE FEMALES
you put a picture of zayn with a man who is an actor and obviously not his father on this post how do you want people to take you seriously? also thinking his father and the actor look a like seems a bit racist to me and so it is making them the homophobic villains on something you have no clue about like his father barely appears in public
I didn’t say that was his father you dumb piece of shit. Interesting that you have to fabricate and put words in my mouth to find a reason to criticize this post. I included that picture of Zayn and Shah Rukh Khan because it was from the Asian Awards and indicative of how much Zayn means to the Asian community and it was a proud moment for him as an Asian and for his family; which was a point I made in the fuller context of this post. I put plenty of pictures of Yaser up with Zayn and Harry and did not once confuse the two, because Yaser looks nothing like this actor. The fact that you made an issue out of this continues to prove my point about Zstans. You’re a bunch of low IQ, semi-literate, single-minded dipshits, obsessed with victim culture and the need to constantly fabricate ways to victimize Zayn.
And I also said since his family are religious, that like most other religions who see homosexual relationships as sexual immorality, they would not approve of Zayn openly dating a man. That is a fact. To pretend otherwise is intellectually dishonest, and shows you’re so desperate to make Zayn and anyone attached to him look flawless that you’re willing to ignore good reasoning. I typically don’t answer you dumb MFs, but I wanted to show just how stupid you are. I wanted to prove I don’t make up any of the things I say about Zstans lmfao
Oh my god…
I will always be grateful that you decided to make this website to be our space to talk openly about them.
And I do agree with everything that you said here,
Especially about the one where some zarries just accept everything that zayn does towards Harry wellbeing and feeling.
How could you decide that Harry is okay with zayn decisions to having a baby after he released the most honest and truest album.
How could you say that Harry knows and give an okay for zayn to do it after he laid everything bare for us to see.
No Harry is betrayed by it on a level we don’t even know.
You might say we don’t know what’s going on behind the scene, but doesn’t Harry songs tells us enough of his struggles?
But no,, some of you decided just because he’s a little ball of sunshine he will just go along with everything zayn pulled on him,
The amount of how much he loves zayn that he start to neglect his own self is really saddened me because i know zayn does not feel the same.
Zayn loves him (a lot) but i don’t think he’s willing to sacrifices ‘something’ for Harry, he’s even unwilling to open up his heart to him.
And I’m not belittling zayn struggles and trauma, but just because Harry doesn’t experienced what zayn have doesn’t mean he struggles less.
There will always be two kind of reaction of everything that we do.
And I’m getting tired of it when people said ‘if only this was happen to the other boys,you will react diffirently’
Because when you said the boys you only mean HARRY and not the other 3.
When you feel that your fave doesn’t get much love or respect blame your own fandom, not to ‘other boys’.(yes this unrelated to this post but i just cant take this anymore i had to get it out of my chest). These people acted as if Harry have it easy just because he’s loved by many.
No you can’t blame him or his fans defending him just because he’s so lovable.
I will fight tooth and nail for him too if I have to.
I think Harry’s family knows, but you’re spot on about Z and the men in his family. And if his ED was rooted in how that side of the family behaved, intentionally or not, then it’s no wonder he’s terrified. Not that it gives him a free pass to treat Harry like crap. It doesn’t. I think the only way to truly break things out of this Brokeback Mountain lunacy is for Harry to actually walk away. Z’s already messed up, and needs therapy and to stop smoking tbh because he’s self-medicating. It’s horrible to see, but if he ever does let go and live authentically the good will outweigh the bad. I mean he’ll have Harry. The family stuff never stops hurting but the alternative is worse, in my opinion.
Btw, sorry if it was my comment that prompted the rule reminder. I thought my comment vanished when I went to edit it, sorry if it posted. Your place your rules 🙂
salut AD ! basecally i think the same .. his mom might know something .. his dad maybe .. but noway the extended family .. i don’t see zayn outing himself anytime in the futur .. i think deep inside he doesn’t see himself as “gay” or even “bisexuel” harry was/is the only man who ever attracted him .. so he’s like .. i’m not making headline for one relationship that might end tomorrow and lost everything in the process .. tipycal zayn behavior ..sigh.. harry in the otherside see things differently .. yes he doesn’t want to be labled but he’s not hiding his truth either so we might see him in relationship with a man .. his feeling for zayn will take time to resolve but this will happen inevitably
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Zayn is a sad man in for a world of pain if he’s lying to himself that much lol. That’s sheer denial.
Harry’s family definitely knows about his relationship with Zayn .His family has been to concerts where he has sang medicine
Thank you so much AD! You have a true gift for presenting interesting topics, offering informed opinions and getting great feedback! I have yet to read an opinion on this site that was not interesting and informative.
Just a thought…given that it is almost a certainty that Gigi knows. What would stop her from leaking the truth about Zarry? We all know that she is an expert at playing the press to reflect her narrative. At some point I think Zayn is going to become a liability to her if he continues along this path. If she were to let the Zarry story get out…she could come out looking as a devoted partner and mother who tried selflessly to save Zayn. If there were a custody battle….of course she looks better. She would still have claim on his depleting millions via the baby. Plus if he got w/ Harry…possible access to unlimited funds and still look like a saintly victim.
Even now with Zayn’s disinterested persona in public….she appears the better parent, hardest worker and more devoted partner. While he has chosen to appear a lazy, hermit who has little interest in anything in his life except weed and cigarettes.
You make valid points. z faced disappointing his family on 2 fronts, one for leaving the band and the fame and fortune his family gained by association and im sure they didnt want to lose that. probably a lot of heated discussion. z has supported some if not all of them at some point and maybe still does. the bigger disappointment would come from revealing he was in a relationship with and had fallen in love with his male bandmate. Other than his mom I doubt his family knows but may suspect. so he gets in a relationship with perrie to hide his relationship with h which wasnt too successful because well just watch the this is us premier the day the engagement went public. Perrie was suspicious or maybe she only thought it was the women he kept getting caught with and not H. they were both on the road separately and likely never spent much time together. z uses drugs to avoid issues with the band and h which leads to anxiety, depression, weight loss, seclusion. then z and h cant come to terms or H wanted to go public forcing Z to give up the band and leave h behind with promises of getting together when the timing is right and then dumps perrie maybe because she outlived her usefulness. I dont think H and Z ever strayed far apart and then H releases 2 albums that clearly point to z being the love of his life which puts z back to finding a beard. im sure G knows and the pregnancy was planned to add more cover. but now z looks like he doesn’t want to play anymore and lives in a drug induced haze in seclusion on a farm to avoid dealing. then i suspect H gave him an ultimatum and now hes f*cked. H has repeatedly shown his undying love for z i just wish z would trust it.
Harry’s family know and the song outside confirms what happened when Harry invited Zayn home just the two of them .Anne’s house has a lovely garden which she posts on Instagram with views over countryside .They were photographed leaving in the same car .Anne also made a beeline for Zayn to hug him in later footage at an event. Someone was phographed leaving the set on both films recently , the first getting in to a car wearing a beanie which Larries swore was Louis. The second getting in the car surrounded by security with Harry’s coat on .Security banged on the car roof and it sped off .Harry has waved every night to fans as He got in the car and also wound the window down when leaving and shouted to people doing keep fit to squat lol.Harry has no need to hide you can see photos of him everyday on set anyway. Zayns family don’t post about him much.I think they must realise and will have read numerous Zarry accounts etc and Zayn even followed one himself .They socialise in the Muslim community mostly and His youngest sister has a baby that is one year old.So you can imagine the heat would be on Zayn who is much older to have kids.Zayn’s Dad has only appeared on one post with Saffaa’s daughter and never with Khai which is strange. Don’t think He went to visit Zayn with Trish Zayn,s Mum and I doubt if He lives with Her because Zayn only mentioned buying his Mum a house all those years ago no mention of Dad.
This is an interesting topic. On the one hand, I feel like it’s hard to believe that so many of us (total strangers) could “know”, but not his family.
On the other hand… I’ve had a similar experience. I’m non-binary and I didn’t know that word when I was young, but I would repeatedly tell my family to please stop buying me jewelry or anything in the color pink because I really didn’t like it. However, they persisted for years buying me overtly feminine things. It was like my mom especially had some sort of mental block regarding who she wanted me to be, despite what I told her.
I eventually ended up moving away and becoming really distant because that was just causing me anxiety if I felt like I couldn’t be myself around my own family. So I could relate to Zayn a lot if this was the case for him. And I could also see how it could be true.
I think his mother knows for sure, but maybe she is waiting for her son himself to realize this and come to her to talk to him about it. I don’t think she’ll confront him so as not to rush him. Regarding zarry’s hope I still have it but I think Zayn will be open and affirm his love for H the day there will be a real threat of H being in love with another man coz if there is something that Zayn cannot hide is his jealousy and his possessiveness towards H. They hate seeing H too close to another man especially if he himself is not friends with this last (or does not know him) we l ‘saw in 1D he was jealous even when it came to the other members of the group. so yes it’s jealousy that will get Zayn out I’m sure. Thank you AD for this site which allows us to discuss freely without having to fight with the larries, it feels good. love you 😘😘😘💚💛
Hi Ad queen….and am totally agree with you luv…and you know i saw some proofs recently that after gigi’s romantic birthday celebration with zaynie *eye roll* she was quite loud about zarry….she shared some unnecessary videos or things in her insta story but it was important for zarries…one of the story was harry and zayn and another one where harry’s sticker was there….and i think waliyah and safaa knows about zayn and harry….i saw something that’s why am saying…i have to check this things again…btw take care love❤️
I saw some people bring is up and I think it is interesting how he used to be so much more open about Harry (candy thong, the nude pic, calling him sexy) and then almost the complete opposite. I agree it’s partly with him getting older and more aware of things (plus internalized homophobia) and their relationship becoming more serious but I also wonder if there was an incident with his family members or someone else that caused him to be more low-key about it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Lots of great points made here, especially about closeted men coming to a breaking point and things that went on in the 80s. I can’t imagine that any of them don’t break down at some point or end tragically. Living a lie takes a toll on your mental that people simply can’t comprehend. That’s why Zayn’s fans get so mad at us when in truth we genuinely are concerned with his mental health, they just don’t get that deep down he is slowly dying. It’s a slow and miserable death (metaphorical death).
I keep drawing the distinction that my criticism of Zigi has never been ONLY about Harry. Most of it is about Zayn as an individual and how you can see evidence of his suffering in the way he let his career go and makes no significant efforts in that regard. He doesn’t hold himself accountable to his own career. There is zero professionalism there. He couldn’t even keep up with the meager promo he did for NIL like the livestreams and even the Billboard takeover was so lackluster and anticlimactic. He is capable of so much more, but his fans have become enablers instead of true supporters. They even stopped buying his music.
I also agree with you about Olivia. I imagine she has been informed to some extent. Tbh I think Harry tells all his serious dates what to expect, sort of like Noah in the notebook (Harry’s fav film) he told his mistress about Allie and when Allie appeared the other chick knew she had to leave because Allie comes first. Harry probably tells all his dates there is someone else, just based on the fact that it’s obvious in his music and behavior. I kind of think on some level Harry tells the Camille’s and the Olivia’s he can only take things so far. (That’s just in my opinion though)
Or maybe is letting his career down so that G can leave him and reduce his Fanbase to search extents he won’t own them an explanation if he comes out Gay or Bi.
I think Trisha knows about Harry but doesn’t want to admit it and his father😶 well maybe he is an introvert just like Zayn or doesn’t want anything to do with his son because he knows he is Different 😐
But your right, it doesn’t give Zayn the right to hurt Harry like that, some lines are not to be crossed.
Love YOU lots 🥰😘😘AD
I dont knoe much abt Z’s culture but as an African l knoe its not easy going against yo family…..its very rare…its a taboo.If a man comes to my house and ask for my hand in marriage n my parents say NO for watever reason believe me that man wil leave me and l wont marry him.Same sex relationship aaa u don’t even Dare open yo mouth so if thats the situation Zayn is in he should jus let H go coz l dont think Harry has it in him to let go of him1st.About the Maliks…l don think they knoe,l don think he has given them a reason to doubt that he isn’t straight
Completely agree.
I am from muslim family. Eventthough Zayn is an indpendnt adult. Its quite difficult to loss family relationships or being socially isolated.
And more importantly internalized homophobia.
I think he has long and difficult road to walk.
Harry will have move on. I don’t think its fair to wait on someone else on your expanse.
Anyhow your page is awesome
Thanks
Hey AD, I totally agree with you and did you see how she posted new zigi photos right after Harry’s photos from my policeman set came out??😏🤦♀️Also….hell, the man is BUILT!!😍🤤
Hi love! 🙂 I haven’t seen the actual pictures because I don’t want to gag, but I have heard a lot of people talking about them! Typical attention craving Gigi. I can’t wait to see what she does when the clout runs out. Zayn’s music isn’t going anywhere and the baby hype is dying. Her only choice is to get married or have another baby because zayn will not change or do anything significant any time soon.
If they get married they will only get attention for a few days. And people will forget it again. The reason she got so much attention from the pregnancy is because people did not expect it and she hid her stomach in the beginning which made people speculate. Honestly I do not see myself gigi and zayn be together until they are 40 … or you never know gigi is obsessed with zayn so 🤷🏻♀️
I think his mum knows. I don’t think they’ve ever spoken about it, but she would have seen it. Also the cousin that he’s closest to. He’s never seemed close to his sisters.
2013 was a huge Zarry year – it was so obvious that something was going on. I get the feeling that someone in his family, (his dad? his uncles?) may have confronted him about it – mentioned how “gay” he was behaving on stage (crotch bumps, candy thongs) – and as a result of that confrontation, he responded with the engagement.
It’s obvious that Zayn craves his dad’s approval. He is the eldest and the only son and that comes with a lot of weight in terms of responsibility and expectations about carrying on the family name. Zayn is also a huge fan of hip hip culture and R&B. Appearance means a lot to him. Being “the man” surrounded by a bevy of females is a big deal in that context. He is also cognizant of his fame and standing in his community and to his fans and a lot of that is based on this image he has so carefully crafted.
I find it ironic that missing his family while he was on the road was one of the reasons he left 1D, yet here he is, living on a completely different continent from them. It almost feels like he doesn’t want to be close to them in case they discover his farce. It’s easier to project this aspirational lifestyle (look at me! I’m a moody famous musician living my best life with my supermodel girlfriend) from a distance. On his farm, he doesn’t have to pretend. If he lived in the UK, he’d have to pretend all the time.
I recently watched a movie on Netflix called Happiest Season with Kirsten Stewart whose character is dating MacKenzie Davis. They both go to Mackenzie’s family’s home for Christmas where Kirsten discovers her girlfriend has not come out to her family and she has to pretend to be her room mate. There’s this line at the end where she says “I didn’t know you were going to hide me” and her girlfriend replies “I’m not hiding you, I’m hiding me.”
Zayn is hiding in Pennsylvania, that’s obvious. Not just from the media, but from his family and from himself. I don’t think he’ll ever admit what he had with H. In the most hypocritical fashion, for someone who is so obsessed with “being authentic” he has sold his soul to be anything but.
Incredibly astute comment, Anon. Thanks for sharing! You’re right that line from the movie is poignant and very fitting for this situation. Terribly heartbreaking.
I got chills with that line. How sad!
*sighs* I just hope there won’t be some angry songs in Harry’s new album I mean he has all the right to be angry but like we all know anger just doesn’t mak you feel any better. Anyhoo yes I do believe Zayn’s family do not know about Harry and treats him like a “huge ass secret” which is quite painful like imagine if the love of your life doesn’t want anyone to know about you and wants you “hidden”.
And as times goes by we’ll wait for anything, is it wrong that I still hope for them to be together despite how toxic they are now?
Love you AD!!!
XDDD as much as the last line made me sad but I really agree with you 100%. Harry needs someone who can show him off not his fault that the one he wishes for doesn’t have the courage to do it :D.
Thank you for this post AD. I’ve wondered for awhile about this topic but never really sure which way I leaned. Coming from Zarryland I wonder how could they not know but then also remind myself that’s because we are intentionally looking for their hints (in more recent years). I don’t think that Z willingly opened up and told any of his family but also it seems hard to imagine they know nothing of the sort. Harry aside, lyrics such as Calamity have to be a sign that things are not well in his world. Same with the pap pics. I agree that he may not be as close with his family as portrayed but its also hard to imagine they don’t see those pictures and see someone that does not look happy (not saying that just because he isn’t happy in his current situation draws a direct line to Harry for them). I know social media only gives a glimpse into a full picture but I have found it odd over the last few years in Trisha’s and the sisters ig posts I never see their dad in family pictures / events.
Hey! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! you’re right I’ve always found it strange too that his dad is never pictured with the family and you just never get wind of him. I suspect Zayn will end up the same. I often wonder if Yaser is well. At one point I asked my friend if she thought he died back when Zayn got the Yaser tattoo and posted those poems about him, but I suppose he is still alive. I hope he’s well.
I saw a video of Yaser playing with Safaa’s daughter (or at least I thought it was her child) a while ago and he was smiling. I also saw a photo of him with some family members from either 2019 or 2020, but we never see photos of him with Trisha or his daughters which is very strange especially since they take photos all the time and apparently he also didn’t attend Waliyah’s wedding a few months ago. I always thought he just didn’t want to be in the limelight and was therefore so “absent” during the 1D days but it seems like he’s the same with the rest of his children too. Very odd.
I don’t have any social media. And when my friends and family that do have social media take photos of me or my family they ask before posting if it’s ok…. I always say thank u for asking but I’d like no pictures posted. Now they know and they just don’t post pictures with me or my family. Zayn’s dad might be like me and just not like showing so much especially when u r a Malik and everyone fan or hater spends time looking for “info”. Or maybe something happened back during 1D days that keeps him out of the public eye.
Insightful as always, A.D. I believe his entire family knows. I’m a simple spectator and it only took a few video clicks to see what was obvious. I find it hard to believe that his family hasn’t watched the same videos and figured it out. Doubtful they will ever say or do anything, even if he goes public, for fear of losing the gravy train. And if there is anyone who knows for sure it’s his mom as she likely watched him struggle with his identity as a child and as a teenager.
Harry’s mom and sister definitely know. Perrie knew – she did a very respectable job of woman scorned. They were more PR than anything else. And Gigi absolutely knows. She’s calling the shots and she relishes every opportunity to rub Harry’s face in it. Zayn is doing the absolute minimum and is becoming more and more reclusive. They haven’t been seen together in weeks. Zayn is probably in the UK. (And will be rushed right back for photo ops at any moment.)
Zayn and Harry aren’t going to make it if Zayn continues playing this game. He can’t spend all of his allotted time referencing Harry in a MV about beginning again and then willingly participate being papped with his pearl bracelet covered wrist and hand on Gigi’s a$$.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, love
Hi A.D. I love this website so much, and I love the way you mind works. I mostly agree with everything you said, but I keep having these doubts regarding the PR thing with Gigi. If Zayn is willing to go to these extremes of a PR relationship for so long, why not do it properly in a sense of fully synchronizing with Gigi in her posts and public appearances because everyone can pick up on how weird and one sided their relationship is. I guess I keep thinking…why not make things easier for them and fully play along with the PR thing if that’s really the case? Thank you for always providing us with the best contents, you are awesome! 💜
I appreciate your kind words and you sharing your thoughts, thanks dear. Zayn finds it difficult to participate in the PR ever since Harry came back on the scene imo. He suddenly stopped posting her on all his social media two days before Girl Crush aired in 2017, which tells me he was still willing and ready to post her until that performance literally hurt him so much he couldn’t post her anymore. And of course he can’t control Gigi posting him, since the whole point of them being together is mutually beneficial PR and he has to uphold his side of the bargain in someway, so he does the bare minimum at all times, trying to please both Gigi and Harry.
To me, it’s easy to tell Zayn doesn’t feel comfortable participating in the PR because of Harry, but he occasionally does break down and do it to promote his music and to help her sell the story, since that’s the entire point of their relationship. Like you said it’s very clear how one sided and weird their relationship is, which shows there are deep-seated issues between them that no one knows about, and which I suspect have to do with the Harry factor and Zayn’s closeted sexuality.
A solution to this would be for Zayn to simply stop the charade altogether, but he has crippled himself in a way with the severe alienation and burning so many bridges. The Hadids are literally all he has if he doesn’t want to go home and live alone near his family. But the problem is, I suspect he is hiding from his family as much as anyone, which is why he moved to the US imo. To keep them at a distance. Gigi has put up with his crap for so long because she came in at a time he was doing well and they established something together in the media that has completely changed her career, so of course she’s sticking around. And Zayn has no hope for finding another PR relationship with another woman since he doesn’t go anywhere or do anything ever. It’s very sad. We suspected for while they didn’t even live together in PA and we were right. It was a façade she was putting up until people pointed out the differences in the houses. Then shortly after the pics leaked of the different farm houses, she suddenly tells Vogue they’re moving in together. So their relationship has major inherent issues because Zayn is factually and undeniably closeted, and has carried on a fucked up relationship with Harry for years, so they are hiding this with media smokescreens.
Zayn needs to make a move to power up his self worth and and gain some control of his life. He gives all this power to Gigi to make sure his life stays as it is and that she stays quiet about Harry (bc we know she knows). I wish Harry wld realize he has that power too, even more than Gigi. Gigi or/and Harry cld out Zayn. Harry is becoming more comfortable being him openly. It’s just a matter of time that all the pieces to Fine Line are even obvious to non Zarries. And Gigi will milk the Zayn train as long as he is weak. Zayn’s needs to get out and stop giving Gigi the power and move on. Sry I hope I’m making sense….
trisha most definitely knows the way she post zarry items. especially when zarry are ‘the outs’ with one another (last one wishing g a happy b-day on ig & in the next cell a past 1d clip of zarry singing next to eachother). i think she just wants what is best for him. she seems like a good soul. the ‘normal looking’ family unit is probley something she thinks will smooth him instead it caused havoc. even harry, i think it was always unsaid but anne want the same. the fact that its happening w/olivia’s baggage must be killing her. as far as the rest of zayn’s family i don’t think they care. they believe whats infront of them. right now whats infront of them is gigi.
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. Trisha could very well know but thinks it’s best for him to live normally, probably unaware of how this could be affecting his mental health. Great point.
i have to add on to why i think trisha is more excepting of zarry. we know she’s a devout muslim but she wasn’t born into it, she converted. we do not know the makeup of her own family. there could be lgbtq relatives in her immediate family & friends. no matter what life you live your main family is always your touchstone. that may be her touchstone.
Wow!! I’m been thinking about this for ever.
I think they all know. Z. Did not confirm that to them. But, if we pick there relationship base in all the clues they do. They know and never confront
him about it.
Remember Z. Sing on Tightrope, he never thought he was going to be ready AGAIN.
I think he was ready in 2014. They were very happy and open then. But I think his dad call him out and push him to leave the band. (And Z. Wanted to do it anyway. )
To leave H. Behind. Remember his dad was with him when he left the band.
The dad just doesn’t want to be embarrassed in public.
Anyway, Z. Is an adult now. He can choose H. Now. He is just Comfortable having H. In the side. And that is the only Disappointment I have for my lovely H. Love has been killing him slowly for years. 😢
Thanks for sharing your thoughts my dear!
I don’t think his dad wanted him to leave the band. Zayn even said he wanted to prove his dad wrong that he could do it all alone and gain his respect. I don’t remember what interview he said that in this but he said he’s mom was the one that was more supportive and told him to come home.
You’re right. It’s the Zane Lowe one he said that
The funny thing is in flames & where do broken hearts go it refers to a broken home. I think his dad’s been out of the picture for a long time but they keep it quiet.
I feel like everyone knows. Firstly because isn’t zarry like a pretty well known industry secret? Many people seem to know and point to it (recently lizzo). And the most important: Zayn posted a photo of him filtered in bisexuality LGBTQ colours. If you go to the comment section on insta you can see so many people pick up on it. How will Zayn’s family and friends not know about this? Also the Khalil Gibran poem. Whether they support or not, don’t know. But I feel all his friends and family members know about his sexuality.
I totally agree with you! It’s an open secret! I mean there is even an article from the New York Post very directly hinting at him being a closeted gay and I always think about Azalea Banks and the disgusting comments she made about Zayn, but she said sth. like he (Zayn) can go and suck his Rapunzels d*ck. (when I read this, I immediately thought she was talking about Harry). I think his family knows, but don’t want to face it, they pretend not to know, because it’s more convenient to them and I don’t think they talk about it, but they know.
Hi dear, good points. I wonder that sometimes too, like how can his family not know by now? Maybe a lot of his family do know or suspect because they’ve seen certain things, but I still doubt very seriously that Zayn voluntarily told anyone.
I feel like even if he never approached them and told them his secret, they surely would have confronted him by now. The fact that both those insta posts are still up also speaks volumes. If they were really repelled by the idea that Zayn is a bisexual those posts would have been long gone.
I kinda feel like zayn keeps on going back and forth with the whole coming out thing. We need to also remember that the moment Zayn comes out, the zarry secret will automatically become public whether it is specifically mentioned or not. Two members of the same band come out as members of the LGBTQ community. It is so easy to put two and two together. And the evidence is all there to see. In a way both Zayn and Harry need to be ready for whatever comes their way the moment Zayn decides to come out ( if it ever happens). I do think the guy is taking baby steps again given the fact that he did a ” no labels” magazine cover. Let’s hope this time he doesn’t step back and atleast makes efforts to step away from the toxicity aka Zigi ( even though it is going to take quite some time).
I wonder if maybe someday he’ll just come out suddenly and shock us all when he has had enough like in his other major decisions, y’know like when he just left the band. Or maybe I’m being delusional. I hope someday he’s open too.
I hope Harry is happy too, and loved and healthy and just Harry. Meanwhile I agree he shouldn’t have to be subjected to that kind of treatment. Ever.
That’s very interesting, and it seems very possible like you said based on how he eventually left Islam and the band. Things I’m sure he battled with for a long time before jumping ship on both those things. I guess we can but hope he’ll hold himself accountable to Harry and what he has put him through soon, whether they end up together or not. Harry deserves to be acknowledged and honored for his role in his life.
Great topic! I have thought about this a lot and 100% believe that Trisha and his sister’s suspect or know. I do not think Zayn told them or they have confronted him on this. Consider that Zayn has been away from his family for so long…they most likely don’t have a deep relationship. Plus he supports his family Financially so I doubt they want to rock that boat. I have no doubt that as active as they are on social media…people regularly message Trisha and the girls to try and discuss/reveal Zarry details. I have seen such conversations between the youngest and Zarries. I would not be at all surprised if they follow your Documentaries. As a parent …I know I would, especially if my child was as elusive and troubled as Zayn. Also, didn’t Zayn’s cousin live with him when he first started w/1D? He probably knows or suspects.
100% Gigi knows and most likely checks any sources she has to keep up tabs on Harry. She is so insecure that I’m sure she makes it her job to stay on top of the Zarry situattion and discredit Harry any chance she can. Consider that Harry has/is everything she is not. Zayn (in the past) has put Harry’s feelings above hers. The only thing she has to compete with is the baby. Harry is much more talented, popular, wealthier and respected than she will ever be. Plus if rumors are correct….Harry turned her down and chose Kendall over her as PR Girlfriend. Harry is a huge threat to her whether he is with Zayn or not.
Also, I find it strange that Zayn has such low expectations from the women he gets involved with. Perrie laughed at him and joked about him being a freak….he allows Gigi to pimp them out to the media for relevance. Zayn portrays himself as deep and caring person yet he gets involved with the most superficial family around.
Finally….I have never thought that Zayn would “come out” and be w/ Harry….but he must have convinced Harry or Harry would not have hung around this long. This I don’t get.
You’ve made so many great points here, especially the final one. I think the reason Harry was around for so long and has always been so hopeful is because he was being lead on and told things will change, and they just basically never have. It’s so sad, but it is obvious in some of there lyrics. The lyric from “Fingers” has always haunted me because it seems to illustrate their troubling ongoing scenario in one line: “I know it’s taking all your strength to keep restrained. You’ve got different things replacing old feelings that you felt, I know you’ve seen it for yourself. Where’s the shame? No shame in what you need.” It strikes me as Zayn knowing how much Harry is struggling to hold on and wait for him through the bullshit, and Zayn is very aware that Harry is tired and turning to other coping mechanisms and probably other people to sustain him during his weight. Zayn seems very aware of the toll this has taken on Harry over the years. “It’s a gamble to take anymore of you.” But he still seems to keep Harry guessing or continues to give him false hope (we see an example of this back and forth game zayn plays like with the Bode and pearls and senior chords jacket) because deep down he doesn’t want to lose Harry for good. Ugh
for your last point , it is kinda logic to be with a superficial person to carry this on than a geniune person with a sincere family that how he choose them i guess, the more superficial they are the more easy it is to operate.well….
Also, G is perfect from an outsider’s perspective. She’s successful, family-oriented, beautiful (and resembles Aishwarya Rai, who is considered one of the most beautiful women in the world by Indians and Pakistanis) and she has a Muslim background. On paper, she’s perfect for Z as far as his relatives are concerned. I think there are a lot of religious, cultural, and family reputation reasons why it would be hard for Z to come out. But I think he’s trying to figure it out and is making baby steps (literally and figuratively). He’s given his family everything they could fantasize about, including a child. At some point, hopefully he’ll do things that make him happy too. I hope he has some genuine friends and gets the support he needs on this journey (including from H). It’s hard to watch two poetic, sensitive souls be so tortured.
A question….didn’t one of Zayn’s cousins frequently travel to shows with 1D? If he has eyes, he would know. Also, I believe Gemma also travelled with them quite a bit, so I would assume she and Ann both know that Harry loves Zayn madly.
I kind of think that in Zayn’s family Harry is a “hidden secret” that is not to be considered or discussed.
Someone else made this point about Jawaad, and I agree. There does seem to be a very strong possibility that he picked up on something between Zayn and Harry, especially in those final days. He was literally there when Zayn left the band and I find it hard to imagine he didn’t catch wind of Zarry’s fallout that left Harry drinking in Bangkok before they headed to China. This is an amazing mysterious I would love to pick his cousin’s brain on lol. But he seems pretty loyal to Zayn despite their differences they seemed to have a couple of years ago.
There are things we know in our hearts but don’t acknowledge or speak of. That may have been the case with Z’s mother. I had a brother that I loved dearly who was gay. He died of AIDS years ago. I have no doubt that she knew but was in denial. If we don’t speak of it, it isn’t true. I doubt very seriously that Z will ever speak to any of his family about H. What you wrote about is the reason I think that they will never be together in a full relationship. I hope the baby was enough for him to let go. They were beautiful together but H was the equivalent of Z’s mistress. I don’t see Z as a villain here. They were both willing participants and H chose to wait. I just hope he’s done. I really do. Z isn’t going to come out. I think Harry deserves to be with someone who is all in.
Excellent points made, thanks for sharing your thoughts! While they were both willing participants, I do see Zayn as stringing Harry along and taking advantage of his patience and willingness to wait, hoping something will change. Which I believe he has always been promised, and never came to fruition. I also see a lot of his behavior as unnecessary and unduly damaging to Harry (such as the “unintentional” Harry diss by way of the Grammy diss.)
I completely agree with you… I really don’t want to go into any conclusions but you know somewhere if you face all these complications you’ll come to a point where you’ll think that “enough is enough”. You’ll tend to do what your heart wants… But I don’t think that’s the case for Zayn … I knew he’s more of a private person but the pap walks proves something different… Where we know that he doesn’t do anything against his wishes… So these things are really unnecessary… I mean he’s not a baby that can be manipulated easily… Idk when these drama will be over … I stan both Harry and Zayn and I love them both equally… I don’t hate Zayn at all I literally love him tooo … But when it comes to Zarry I do think he behaves like a coward sometimes… Am sorry to say that… I would also like to request you AD… Please don’t hate Zayn 🙂 he already has a lot of haters… By saying this am not trying to take his side but just wanted to communicate with you through this… Have a good day 🙂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I just take issue with one thing you said. Criticism does not equate to hate, and I don’t appreciate being accused of hating people when I don’t ever do so. I will continue to voice my opinion on Zayn whether they be positive or negative as I see fit, and I have not ever expressed hatred towards him and will never do so. Criticism and negative opinions are a part of life and certainly apart of him being famous. The sooner his fans can get that through their heads, the better off we’ll all be.
My God I was planning to write a full comment about everything but forgot when I read “Little did Yaser know this curly headed, dimpled cheeked fuck would steal his son’s virginity” 🤣🤣🤣 you kill me!
I do agree with everything you said. Also Didn’t the sisters posted bad things about G when they broke in the past? Like they didn’t even like her, they seemed to like more Perrie. I love how you describe everything’ cause it’s exactly what I think, but very well explain it.
I mean I understand Z because I would probably do the same to not “disappointed” my family, what I’m not agree is like you said, the unnecessary things he did on the past to reassurance his “straightness”.
And yes, I feel like Trisha kind of knew about it too, but I certainly don’t think she would ever confront him at all. But I think it was pretty obvious when his sonshine looked happier or with whom mostly.
Hahahaha I’m sorry I couldn’t resist saying that when I say that picture of them together 😂🤣 I’m glad you still shared your thoughts thank you!
All I want Zayn to do is leave Harry leave Gigi if it doesn’t make him happy and live in Jamaica or somewhere cool and have Therapy. After he is stable he can make decisions maturely.
I want hazza to make all the movies and music he wants and live his life without any Pr’s relations and Heartbreaks.
I think he’s scared that his family will disown him especially his dad. His dad wouldn’t even attend his daughter’s wedding because her husband spent time in Jail or prison can’t remember which one so can you imagine if he found out about him and Harry
If this is true then his dad needs to have several seats and stop pressuring his son to that extent. It’s literally killing Zayn slowly. NIL was a cry for help if I ever heard one. So is his body language when he is seen out with Gigi.
I completely agree A.D.! I hope Zayn’s Dad has not been giving him any grief. Yet I feel his reluctance to fully embrace who he is, is driven by the perceived negativity and judgement he may get from his family (particularly the men). His male cousins may have even taunted him when Fine Line came out since no amount of explaining and denial can hide who that album is clearly about. We know that is why Khai is here.
I believe Zayn’s Mom knows. I just think it has always been unspoken. After 5 years of witnessing Harry and Zayn’s dynamic (onstage and off) as well as being party to musings (undoubtedly some overly zealous ones from her son about Harry), she would surely have figured it out. I for sure believe Harry’s Mom and Gemma know simply because they are so very close and Harry would most likely have wanted them to know. Though they would have figured it out as well. I sincerely hope they know because I don’t want to imagine Harry feeling completely alone and unable to express himself through all these years of extreme hurt and despair😭😭😭. Zayn appears intent on keeping up with this happy family charade, even though he looks so miserable and uneasy when he’s with Gigi…..artificial-like. I hope Harry becomes involved with a drop dead gorgeous man who really cares about him and is delighted to show him off! Let the tables turn so that Zayn knows what it feels like to be the frustrated, lovesick pursuer. Sorry, not sorry. Zayn, you done Harry wrong😡😡😡!!!!
I read, I think, a Watt Pad story where Zayns father noticed the many posts on youtube that we’ve all seen that makes Zarry so real and told him to end it. I think there is no way they don’t know. They have access to just as much info as we do regarding Zarry and I think without a doubt have seen and questioned him about it. When I look at the pictures and videos early in 1D I don’t see Zayn suffering but as you pay attention through the years you see him change before your very eyes. There is no way a straight man would do the things he’s done and the touching and rubbing is enough for anyone to question his sexuality. We saw it and so did they. Now, where they instrumental in him becoming closeted? Hell yeah! I can see his dad giving him hell about it because he is the only son and must represent the Malik name. I think he loves Harry and always will and will live a life full of pain and heartache. I’ll give him a couple more years to get his shit together and free himself or he will single handily self destruct. Hell, he’s well on his way. He reminds me of Whitney Houston and I only hope his outcome is not the same. The drugs and cigarettes will eventually destroy his voice and he’s burning so many bridges in the industry that when that’s gone nobody will deal with him. Right now he’s a liability. I feel sorry for him because he could be one of the greatest. Harry has the look and charm and has so many irons in the fire with so many options that I see him having a very long career. So no I believe they all know and are the main reason he’s hiding behind Gigi’s coat tail because he doesn’t want to let his family down. Maybe he has them thinking it was a phase but I definitely think they know. All of them including Gigi. That’s why she’s jealous if Harry. Can you imagine sleeping with someone you know wants someone else, especially if that someone is a man? He will be trying to prove to her for the rest of his life cause when they both fade away, and they will, people are still going to be watching what Harry Styles next move will be and so will they. This is only the beginning for Harry and the beginning of the end for Zayn. Let’s not forget his last 2 albums flopped. He got a lot of work to do but I don’t think he has it in him. I will always be a fan but Zayn will be the biggest disappointment that came from 1D and he can’t blame anyone but himself.
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I don’t think Zayns family knows much about him, only what he wants them to see. I think that might be why he stayed in the US, so he cld to keep up with such a orchestrated life/relationship while still keeping up with his secrets etc. I also think his mom knows something. I remember watching that vogue video where Gigi asks Zayn who he wants with him or something and he quickly says Gigi (he looked like he lied to not hurt her) but he says his mom too. It’s his face thou, he looked like he wanted his mom right at that moment… u cld tell he yearned for that peace. I believe his culture has a lot to do with his choices, like many others. I feel the Malik name is riding on him and he feels responsible for it. If it came out he wanted to be with a man (Harry or another) his family name would be disrespected and smeared. When that happens, ur family feels the brunt of it bc the name Malik will be known negatively. I’ve personally seen it happen, it sucks but some things never change. I don’t think his younger sisters know and I think they’d be ashamed personally. I ,like many, only have an opinion. Saying that, my opinion is that Harry has a great family. Super supportive no matter what. Always! I think even his step dad knew before he passed. Harry is the way he is bc of them and how they just support unconditionally, let him live his live and find happiness. Example, Harry’s mom hugging him with out even saying a word during Fleetwood Mac. She knew and just wanted I be with him. Breaks my hearts. What Z does isn’t right but I believe he does love Harry but fears losing family more bc he knows Harry loves him unconditionally. I hope he gets it together bc Harry deserve more if Harry hasn’t left already. As hard as it is, Z needs to have internal peace to be happy and that isn’t happening living for his family views of him. I don’t know… it’s so complicated. 🤪
Hey! I live in India. I can totally understand why Zayn is afraid of coming out. You can not even imagine the mindset of people in India as well as Pakistan. People literally use the word gay to humiliate the other person in an argument or something. Here people think that any other gender other than male and female is weak and they also get threats from politicians and the religious people and even the common public. Very rarely some people talk about their sexuality in public and trust me after that 99% of their comment section is filled with hatred comments. Many such reasons are there because of which you will not find any Indian or Pakistani actor/ actress/ artist talking openly about their sexuality.
I am worried about zayn and just hope that harry will understand his situation. But sometimes I think harry is aware of his situation that’s why he is still waiting (maybe) And I think Trisha knows about harry and she is just being a supportive mother since it is Zayn’s decision to stay with gigi and also because she knows the consequences of zayn coming out.
Hi dear, thanks for sharing your thoughts and yes I understand what you mean and I can understand there is unimaginable pressure for someone in Zayn’s predicament to stay closeted in those countries. However, Zayn is not in India or Pakistan. He was born in the UK and lives in the United States, two of the freest, most progressive, most tolerant countries in the world. He’s also a celebrity and music artist and moves in different progressive circles in Hollywood and New York and now PA.
Now, no one ever said Zayn wouldn’t face adversity for coming out, he certainly will. We understand that. And we get that it’s not an easy path for him. But adversity is nothing he hasn’t experienced before with leaving the band and with leaving Islam. Those two situations are comparable because they were controversial decisions he made (very publicly) in pursuit of wanting to be “honest and authentic” and true to himself, as he said in his book. Yet, when it comes to his love life, he continues to deceive on a wide scale, and in doing so, hurts someone else in the process. That is super hypocritical of him.
I certainly have never argued that Zayn needs to come out or make his sexuality known to the world, I’m simply pointing out how he needs to stop aggressively selling a lie to his fans and to the media and damaging Harry in the process by never acknowledging him and going out of his way to say harsh and hurtful things like the Grammy Diss. It all helps me to see that Zayn hiding Harry and keeping up the charade with Gigi is more about satisfying his ego and staying in his family’s good graces than it is about protecting him from homophobic persecution or his comment sections which he could easily disable on the very few posts he does make. And even the most hateful, homophobic comment section trolls will get bored after a while and have no choice but to accept who he is.
And saying that “Harry is understanding” as an excuse for Zayn to keep damaging him is reckless and supports the idea of Harry’s continued psychological abuse for Zayn’s benefit. Harry is tormented and has let that be known on more than one occasion. So sure he loves Zayn and has been patient for him, but this is not without a great deal of damage. Harry is kind and patient. We know that and have seen that. But if Fine Line told us anything, it’s that enough is enough. He has been through enough. So the only solution I see is for him to leave Zayn to his choices which will continue to deteriorate his mental health like he expresses in Calamity, and for Harry to move on and try to be happy with someone who actually loves him enough to be with him openly and without shame.
I was just saying that his family’s mindset may not be very much different from the Muslims in Pakistan and India. But I know what you are talking about and Harry should definitely think about himself at this point. But as a zarry i will continue to hope for them to get back together 🙂
Well AD I think you really said it all. I think Zains mother knows even if they probably never discussed it and I think she would support him if he really came out. What else can a loving mother do, right? The men in the family dont even think in that way and Im totally convinced Zayn never wants them to know because of all the reasons you said. And his sisters….well, dont know what to think of them. Im not impressed based on what they show on social media. They should have a clue about it but who knows.
I understand that Zayn chose to live with a woman based on all that you wrote because its not easy to go against your whole family. But some things he has said and done has been totally uncalled for and just cruel towards Harry. Im sure Zayn regrets much of it but then its too late to take it back.
Harry has been patient and forgiving because he knows all of this but he also has only one life to live and deserves much more than to stand in the back and just wait as time goes by.
I also think Gigi knows because how can anyone not know if they want to and has internet. I feel sorry for her too because I cant se that she is a bad person.
This whole situation just makes me really sad. Its such a waste all of it except the innocent baby who Im sure is very loved.
But I wont give up hope 😉
You’re very right my dear thanks for sharing your thoughts. The “zayn needs to protect himself” excuse only goes so far because some of the things he has done with these females have been utterly unnecessary and damaging to Harry. Not to mention the Grammy diss, which did include Harry and denigrated him as an artist and the opening act very harshly whether Zayn intended it to or not.
Zayn’s sisters are religious. They post pictures of the Quran and pray etc. They are also typical Pakistani girls too … so I dont think they know 🙁
But what I have also observed is that I dont think they like gigi. They only repost from gigis instagram due to zayns absence
I Don’t agree.They don’t seem religious at all.Just a little traditional with their clothes when they want to.
Religious? The lip fillers, heavy make up, and the recent posts with fowl language make me question just how religious they really are. But what do I know. Maybe this is the 2021 version.
I completely agree with what you’ve written. I think it’s really because of how his dad would see him not his extended family completely. I do think he cares what they would say or think but he’s always trying to get his dad’s approval. He said that his mom supported all his decisions especially about leaving the band. If he wasn’t happy then come home. He said his dad did not support his decision to leave the band and was disappointed and said he looked ungrateful or something to that. I truly believe if his dad would support him being with Harry, I 100% think he would come out. As kids no matter your age the last thing you want to do is disappoint your parents and if you have their support no matter what, you will feel comfortable with your decisions as especially something big like this. Being Indian myself I can understand why he’s afraid but still think he should live his truth. He said he doesn’t want to make headlines and lose. He would lose probably his dad if he chose Harry based on how Zayn has spoken about him. If they ended up breaking up then he wouldn’t have Harry or his family. For him its too much of a gamble and causes this fear to be with Harry. Unfortunately there are no guarantees in life especially with love but living a lie has to be exhausting.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Very great points, especially how we can seek parental approval no matter what our age is or how successful we become in life. No one wants to feel they are a disappointment to the person who gave them life and raised them. And it’s very clear Zayn looks up to his father and wants to make him proud.
But I always say any friend, lover, or family member worth keeping are the ones who love you unconditionally, respect your boundaries, and accept you for who you are, not who they want you to be. And if his dad makes him feel like he is inadequate or that he can’t walk in his truth, then Zayn should consider rearranging his priorities and reconsider what he wants out of life. No father’s approval is worth living a lie and being mentally ill your entire life because of it (and letting down the person you supposedly love.) This is all hypothetical of course because I don’t know how Yaser would feel about Zayn and Harry being together.
I agree with you but it’s hard for some to live that way. I come from a large family and considered the black sheep because I live my life how I want unlike my siblings. I don’t always follow rules but I am a kind person and try to live tear others how you want to be treated. I’ve distanced myself from cousins who judge me for my decisions without walking in my shoes and because I have an open mind. Some of it is a cultural thing but you should do what makes you happy not for others.
My husband is Muslim. His uncle married a Jewish women. It wasn’t an easy decision bc he disappointed his parents and his whole family. That feeling never left. Some of his family came around and others didn’t. Even his some of this brother-in-laws stop visiting his growing family. Side note: I’m Catholic. When I first met his uncle he was super happy and friendly. I thought he was gonna be super cool and understanding but on the contrary. He told my husband if he had to do it again he wouldn’t. It was really hard, and the loss of his family’s approval and their disappointment lives with him daily. So much he regrets choosing the way he did. I was surprised but a family’s ok goes a long way even if u are living ur truth u still search for that part too. It’s a crappy situation all around. Even being strong, u living life without ur family is lonely. No matter what. It’s just sucks. I wish all parties some hope that Z is wrong and his family wld except and defend him for loving Harry. Bc honestly, Harry is better than any woman Z cld have. Just have them listen to Fine Line!
Any family who would abandon someone because they chose to be happy or follow their heart and who would encourage a person to be miserable and mentally ill living a lie without the person they love is not a family worth having. Blood doesn’t make people family. Love and loyalty does. I’m sorry for your uncle, but I hope he finds better people to surround himself with who will love him unconditionally and accept his choices. God bless him.
Tan France is a British-Pakistani. He have husband.Leo kalyan is gay and British-Pakistani.
Why Zayn malik is not with Harry styles?
I don’t understand them.
Well everybody has different mentalilty
It’s probably because zayn himself said in an interview that most of his fans are from desi background (Indian, Pakistani, etc) Many people here don’t know who is Tan France. But everyone knows Zayn Malik. And the consequences will be very different if zayn comes out.
This lends credence to the idea that Zayn hiding has little to do with his background and heritage and may be more to do with wanting to be seen a certain way for himself, which is sad.
Tan France also mentioned that if his father had not passed, he would not have come out. He has spoken about it openly.
I so agree with you!! I remember around summer last year, Trisha liked a couple posts about Harry on Zayn fan accounts. One of them was captioned, “It sure doesn’t seem like they never talked.” I think there’s a small possibility she sensed something over the years, but like you said, I doubt Zayn ever flat-out told her or anyone else anything about Harry. I know a lot of Zarries like to look at this as “proof” that Trisha knows everything, but I honestly don’t think that’s an indication of anything other than at one point, she liked (or likes) Harry a lot. I think Trisha and Anne used to hang out quite a bit too, so ofc she’d still have love for him and his family.
Great work, as always. That video of Zayn’s friend asking him to say he loves him “more than Harry Styles”… ouch everytime LOL
Hey AD, do u think gigi feels bad for harry? I feel like she would snoop and listen to harrys music to decipher things between Zayn and harry. She obviously listens to watermelon sugar (from the vogue game thing) and she was caught liking a perrie pic (im assuming while snooping on her as well). Do u think gigi also feels insecure about zayns love for her? I mean not as much as harry does but still I wonder
She posted photos of her birthday today and one of them appears to be Z and G kissing. I think she always tries to draw attention to her relationship and that can reveal how insecure she is about it.
Hi dear, no I doubt she feels bad for Harry, she tries to often to flaunt the fact that she has Zayn and that he is crippled and dependent on her. But you’re so right she clearly listens to Harry’s music and keeps up with the things he does. She would naturally feel intimidated by him and his power and his former (or even current) relationship with Zayn. She reeks of insecurity. All the things she posts are to constantly have her fans and the media validate her life and her accomplishments. Zayn is her trophy boyfriend and she will not let anyone forget that, because she feeds off the energy of the public to define her worth. So yes I’m positive that Harry makes her feel insecure because she is a very insecure person constantly seeking validation online in general.
She can put so much out of the baby people are starting to lose interest. The only thing she gets is likes on instagram no more. I’m just waiting for Harry’s movies or if get a nominated for an Oscar then she’s probably going to show her baby. The only reason she hides the baby is because it’s all she has
You’re exactly right.
Hi,
I like your content. Please also share your thoughts about the background voices in this video. Thanks.
https://youtu.be/gmITBmI1xp0
Hi love, I’ve listened a few times and I simply do not hear anything significant. Idk if there is a better video or a specific timestamp I need to look at? I hear a few unclear things that sound like it could be “Zayn,” but they also sound like they could be something else too. And in my opinion, it’s just not terribly realistic to think Zayn would be at the Brits with Harry, out in the open to such an extent that the paparazzi or the photographers are saying his name. That’s some Larry type ish. I believe they always say Louis is at all of Harry’s events in the background being a secret supportive husband lol
:))) larry type-ish!!
No, i think its a video/voice call. People say hi zayn, and someone says zayn malik has been very quiet or something like that…
But, you are right. Very larry type ish.
The whole thing that people were talking about zayn there, at that moment was interesting to me.
I also don’t believe that they know, for many similar reasons. They all seem too supportive of zigi to know the truth and to know how conflicted he feels about everything. I agree he doesn’t appear to be very close to his sisters, especially his younger sisters. They do come across quite immature I have to say and they all seem to be living a very traditional lifestyle which is probably also why Zayn feels like he can’t talk to them about being different. Unfortunately I don’t get the sense that even Trisha knows but I hope I’m wrong about that. I’ve actually never considered how much built-up it probably took for him to leave Islam, I thought perhaps this would make him feel less pressured to live a conventional life. Despite everything I still think the comic and the fact that the two parts of him reconciled is a big deal for him because that’s where things have to start.
Your last sentence makes an excellent point. It very much is a start, regardless of where he may take it. And I’m with you on the Trisha scenario, I often fluctuate as to whether she knows or not. But I understand it’s highly doubtful.
I think he became more guarded and stopped fonding over harry from his early days due to some kind of homophobic experience which i think stemmed from someone in his family. Because in the past he mentioned that his uncles would make fun of his weight gain which prompted him to take up boxing. I shudder to imagine what they would say if z comes out. I think zayn is personally very insecure and his image with gigi as the “perfect couple” feeds his ego. I relate to zayn because i too suffer from anxiety, and I do the same except I project my self-worth into academics. So in conclusion, idk what i wanted to say but this is a very toxic situation for harry and I hope he finds someone who makes him feel “worthy” of all their heart and not just a “little bit”
You’re right it could have been an incident in his family that changed things and made him pursue that hetero image so hard around mid 2013. And I totally agree with you, his image with Gigi is for his “pRoTeCtIoN” but it 1000% also feeds his ego. That is undeniable. He likes being seen as a hetero male in a relationship with a model and that’s just the end of it. And it’s quite sad.
I already think that Anne and Gemma know about Z and H. Also Trissa, it is impossible that for years she has not noticed anything. I agree that family is very important to Z, and I think he has already made a decision and I think H knows it. Z has chosen his life with his daughter and with G because it is the image that is expected of him as part of his family. It’s very sad, and I think neither of them will be happy at all, at least not Z. I hope that H can be, but that implies that Z disappears from his life forever and I think that H is trying, because if Z is not willing to open up, H needs to.
Or maybe they know what they are doing and we are going crazy …. 🐳🐟
I agree, if Zayn has made his final choice, I imagine the dishonesty and the betrayal of Harry’s heart will eat him alive before long. Smh
Yes. As he sit back and watch Harry’s light shine, he will take the same route as Icarus because he disrespected and abused the light. How ironic.
This is so heartbreaking. As disappointed as I am in Zayn, I do not want this end for him at all.
My Policeman is so similar to this two.So sad and broken😭💔
Ughh 💔 I hope he can change his course before he self-destructs completely, or live an egotistical, surface-level life.
Do you ever think that Harry would have recognized himself as bi or gay if he had not hooked up with Zayn. I believe H back in XFACTOR days was a newborn in regards to his sexuality. If he had not experienced Zayn when he did, do you think things would be different for him? In any event I feel sad for H as this has colored his whole mental well being and I think Z struggling with his own self waffled over the years in what he wanted with H and I am not sure H knows how to move on.
Exactly. Z may compartmentalize and repress his feelings but something very powerful happened between he and H. I don’t think Z is really over H and doesn’t care but I don’t understand the strange ways he acts out either like the Grammys thing.
I can‘t help but feel Zayn‘s decision would have been to carry on with both, his picture perfect public family and Harry as his side chick. But somehow it didn‘t work out this time. Maybe Harry decided to leave after the gap year was over and nothing had changed for the better. I wonder if that‘s the reason Zayn got so mad at him. I mean I could deal with the fact that Zayn just isn‘t brave enough to opt for Harry, but it really makes me sick that he doesn‘t have the decency to properly cut ties with him as a consequence. But just my interpretation, as always 🤗.
Same, I don’t think Z has made a decision – carrying on with both these relationships is a satisfying option for him (and him only). And if H has put a stop to it, that could explain why he lashed out (and supposedly criticized H for his Vogue cover). Which is plain sick.
Whatever the case may be, I hope H has cut him off – indefinitely, or until Z makes a move towards living his truth and stops pushing this fake persona.
Good point re Grammy diss